Flu Vaccine Delayed Adverse Events Case History: 


Gambino’s fatal Flu vaccine heart attack

How Vaccines Work

How Vaccines Work With Infections

Vitamin C Can Help Protect You

Immune Functions and Inflammation

A Family Case History of Flu Vaccine with Chronic Infections

  The First Major Incident: AA Depletion (again)

  The Second Major Incident: AA Depletion and a Heart Attack

Vaccine Epidemiology Methodology Issues:

Faster Die-off of the Elderly and Infirm?

Kalokerinos’s Lesson and Warning:

Latest Findings

Our Qualifications and Disclaimer




Gambino’s fatal Flu vaccine heart attack experience raises a profound question of our vaccine safety methodology.  It takes ~6 weeks (or more) to develop immunity in a flu shot. Is it correct to exclude fatal exacerbations of existing chronic infection conditions like heart disease and COPD as vaccine-linked if they appear during the same ~6 week immune system training period. I think not. If immune system is trained for long-term sensitivity, the mistuning may be life-long. The causality is clear, and the vaccine did it and it upsets the cause of death statistics in perverse ways. 


Of course vaccines with immune response adjuvants should not be administered to chronically sick people. This is a rule that is too often ignored.


How Vaccines Work

During the immune system training period of the vaccine, the adjuvant is active, the immune system is excited, immune cells are being be trained to recognize: vaccine (payload) components, vaccine contaminants, chronic/latent infections, allergens, exotoxins, endotoxins, environmental toxins, food molecules…. whatever is foreign and possibly also certain self- molecules. The adjuvants train the immune system to recognize the targets, to signal and to activate killer, phagocytes to attack targets and the mast cells to make peroxides and other cell toxic molecules.


Tests of injection sites in France have shown that aluminum adjuvants can stay in the arm muscle for years. As long as the adjuvant is in your system you may keep training your immune system for new microbial challenges. 


Aluminum adjuvants are associated with persistent tissue toxicity and Autoimmunity Syndrome Induced by Adjuvants (ASIA)  This provides chronic stimulation of ROS generation, locally depleting (oxidizing) ascorbate in the tissues, or organs. Brain, Kidney, Heart, Pancreas, arterial tissues.  Plaques have traces of aluminum and copper that have been moved there by macrophages.  The localized ROS in brain tissues depleting ascorbate is likely a main cause of loss of biochemical functions in the generation of insulin in the pancreas and of dopamine in the brain.  Ascorbate is a known electron donor for these reactions, so depletion of ascorbate can down regulate the production of essential molecules. The effect of persistent aluminum loading in the tissues is system wide and affects a myriad of biochemical reactions.


How Vaccines Work With Infections

If you have an unstoppable chronic infection, you can train the immune system to inflame in its presence, but the immune system may not be able to overcome the infection. This is because ascorbate is depleted and ascorbate plays a role in stopping infections, viral, bacterial, fungal, protozoal.  This leaves the vaccinated host with lowered ascorbate and in a state of unending war and inflammation.  The vaccine promoters’ self-interest lies with denying any fault with the vaccine.  As will be seen later, they have managed the statistics to avoid blame and we do not even recognize that there is a problem.


Except now we have an Autism and Autism Spectrum Disability epidemic of long-term development disorders. The probability of the disorder was less than 1/4000 but it is now larger than 1/100, with no known way to stop the multiple-caused trend, and it is getting worse.

Vitamin C Can Help Protect You

Vitamin C (ascorbic acid = AA), in small amounts, can quell the inflammation, but it gets used up in the process. If you fail to replace it, repeatedly, then the inflammation resumes. You now have a vitamin C dependency that normal RDA amounts cannot satisfy, and the dietary authorities take no notice of the fact that the RDA is not “one size fits all”. So the medical authorities also ignore your and others’ special-needs; everyone must look out for themselves and there is little normal way to get help.  The more vaccinations during a lifetime the more the immune system is hyped. There is no reset button.


One answer is to kill all the microbes, but this is impossible in many cases.  However, AA in much higher microbe killing doses, in therapeutic formulations and with appropriate dispensation protocols, can do this in more cases than are recognized by medical authorities. See AA pharmacokinetics.


Immune Functions and Inflammation

An elevation of immune functions produces more killed-cells and endotoxins released when microbes die.  Free blood AA is oxidized; AA blood levels fall to critical levels. Histamine generation will increase exponentially as AA levels fall; toxemia levels from the chronic latent infection conditions will rise; all these will deplete the ascorbate levels in the blood and in the storage tissues. Rapid onset scurvy (anascorbemia) is the result.


Adjuvants train immune cells to react to chronic infection microbes (and the vaccine payload) in hyper-inflammatory ways. Persistent chronic infections create persistent inflammation conditions. This hyper inflammation accelerates the AA depletion and creates a high level AA intake dependency.  Normal AA in diet is inadequate.  AA depletion accelerates if large and frequent new AA is not eaten.


A Family Case History of Flu Vaccine with Chronic Infections

We have personally seen this happen to a 135 pound 90 year old female family member with COPD and chronic UTIs.


A few weeks after the flu shot, systemic (all over muscle) pains, feelings of sickness, and severe plantar fasciitis pain flares were observed as separate episodes.  All of these symptoms greatly diminished and all pain ended, eliminated in less than 6 hours, when 2 grams of AA were consumed every 2-3 hours.  Then without effective antibiotics for a chronic UTI and a plugged urethra, inflammation flared. Cipro for the UTI without ARBs induced toxemia and more pains and discomforts, again controlled by a higher frequency of AA intake.


But the high level of AA was not consistently maintained on a regular 24-hour basis. There were times with no AA intake for many sleeping hours.

The half lifetime for blood AA is given in a PubMed article as ˝ hour.  This rule of thumb is used below as a way to estimate possible rates and amounts of AA depletion.


The First Major Incident: AA Depletion (again)

Forgetting to take AA at bedtime (9 pm) and arising (7am) was a 10-hour period of no AA intake. A mild COPD exacerbation without accompanying heart distress but with multiple whole body pains judged severe was induced by AA levels dropping by factor of [ ˝]20 = 0.000001. A visit to the hospital and IV Cipro for the UTI accompanied by AA as needed to control overall pain and sickness-feeling left the patient feeling well by 5 PM and she was released to return home.  By evening, she was feeling very well and energetic, after about 16 grams of AA intake that day. CoQ10 intake was 30 mg per day.


The Second Major Incident: AA Depletion and a Heart Attack

Again, forgetting to take AA at bedtime (9 pm) and arising (7am) was a 10 hour period of no AA intake. A severe COPD exacerbation occurred with accompanying congestive heart pains, (fibrillation) and breathing distress. Hypothetical AA levels would have  dropped by factor of [ ˝]20 = 0.000001. 

3 grams of AA were administered with 50 mg CoQ10. 911 was called. ˝ hour after the first AA was given a slight improvement in condition was observed.  In-hospital treatment included IV Cipro, other IV antibiotics, ARB cytokine cascade blockers, and oxygen. 


The family made sure she ate vitamin C: 2-3 grams whenever she felt bad or had a coughing fit. The AA helped quell urge to cough within ˝ hour each time.  Estimated daily AA intake was about 16-24 grams AA per day while on the IV antibiotic to control resulting toxemia from microbial die off.


She was in hospital for 6 days.  On release her oxygen was borderline ~86%  She was weak, needed oxygen, and had low energy. Bladder still distended, persistent difficulty passing urine. No urethra scopy performed in hospital.


She was instructed to take vitamin C, 2 grams at bedtime and when arising and any time at night she had to urinate.  CoQ10, 100 mg per day improved energy levels considerably. AA, 2 grams more than 6 times per day.  After 1 week no need for daily oxygen, only at night.  Daytime O2 level had risen to 96%.  For several days was able to walk unassisted with walker for about ˝ mile each day on level surface with no oxygen. On return home O2 level was 97%.  Feeling very energetic; enough to do housework and floor mopping.



Flu shot with chronic infections (COPD and UTI) caused vitamin C dependency of over 10 grams per day needed to control an increasing inflammation state, followed 3 weeks later, by two major bouts of inflammation exacerbations, COPD respiratory flare and heart inflammation with heart lung congestion (COPD exacerbation) and also from the toxins of the UTI antibiotic microbe die off.  (same tissue sensitivities heart circulatory tract cells and urinary tract epithelium) 


Flu-shot related COPD  exacerbations plus UTI toxemia on antibiotic treatment without ARBs,  increased AA intake needs and induced AA depletion; the  antioxidant AA blood levels would descend to levels of anascorbemia. In presence of toxins, AA converts to DHA. 


Recovery of vitality was rapid if enough AA was eaten every few hours.


This could have been the Gambino case, where flu shot caused heart attack and death. Without AA supplementation the heart failure would have been fatal.  The AA and CoQ10 plus the ARBs helped reduce the heart damage.  The Cipro and other antibiotics temporarily stopped the UTI.  The COPD is still there and it flares if AA dosage or frequency is interrupted.  Chronic coughs go away1/2 hour after several grams of AA are eaten.



Vaccine Epidemiology Methodology Issues:

It appears that the epidemiology of vaccine related conditions is being managed.  Statistics events are edited out to minimize vaccine to adverse-incident linkages.  By restricting the vaccine-related adverse-event window to 3-4 days, the vaccine is excluded as a cause of later vaccine caused sensitivities and adverse events.  Vaccines have repeatedly been seen to train immune system of a susceptible minority to respond aggressively, making them hyper allergic to reinfection.  In the past such vaccines have been judged to dangerous to deploy.  Now by editing the statistics, we approve dangerous vaccines.  But we can also use the same adverse-event exclusion rules to disprove valid claims.


Vaccinations change the death statistics causes from flu to heart disease.  Vaccination reduces the flu deaths but it does so by increasing the number of earlier heart disease deaths.  After more and more vaccinations, death from inflammation, as AA depletes, is more certain and sooner.  Flu infections responses  after vaccination are expected to be more moderate for well persons.  For chronically sick persons Flu vaccinations will  train some persons to have severe inflammatory episodes.  Flu death statistics look better for the herd with the vaccine. Overall Flu death rates are decreased. 


Faster Die-off of the Elderly and Infirm?

Net result is a slightly faster die off of the (older/child/weak)  chronically-infected population and those with latent endotoxin loads.  Causes of this die- off are sudden deaths: heart attacks, more COPD exacerbations, SIDS, SBS, etc, caused by ascorbic acid depletion or rapid onset scurvy. 


Australian Dr Archie Kalokerinos’s  book Every Second Child  showed death rate from  anascorbemia after vaccinations was 50%  in ~3 weeks.

Our family case history is Kalakorinos’ experience all over again, except for an older person.  Kalokerinos recommended AA supplementation at higher than RDA amounts and the vaccine mass deaths stopped.  Years later, in Uganda, the WHO vaccination programs were plagued by mass deaths. Kalokerinos’s 1974 book was long forgotten.


The warnings on not giving vaccines to sick children should be extended to the aged, infirm, COPD, heart conditions, UTI infections, etc. 

Do not vaccinate them;  do not vaccinate them repeatedly; do not vaccinate them many at a time. Vaccinate them and you make them more and more ascorbate dependent and you increase their death rate overall.


If COPD exacerbation, toxemia and/or inflammation flare give appropriate antibiotics ARBs and lots of AA (~3grams per 130 # Body weight) frequently = every 1-3 hours, at bedtime, middle of night, at arising.  Between meals works better than with sugar containing meals.



Kalokerinos’s Lesson:

If vitamin C nutrition is inadequate, or a dependency exists, vaccines are very unsafe for a few.  Sick persons with gut, respiratory, heart/circulatory, urinary, ear or other chronic infections should not be vaccinated; this is the standard of good practice (for children) that is too often ignored by oblivious clinicians.


Kalokerinos’s Warning:

Do an orthomolecular nutrition work up and an AA assessment  before vaccinations.  Vitamin C, in therapeutic doses, should be administered before, during and for several weeks after vaccinations to improve the success and reduce the risks of the vaccination-induced inflammation. 


Kalokerinos’ lesson and his warning are almost universally ignored.


Malpractice?; lawsuit!


Copyright KF and KM Poehlmann, January 2013, all rights reserved.

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(Katherine Poehlmann, PhD and Karl Poehlmann)

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